ERROR - No location metadata found for [station]

Hi - I’m trying to get picks in SWARM to load into Hypo71 via the Event Dialog, using clipboard picks. Every time I try to “Run” it tells me “Number of stations: 0” despite 4 on the clipboard. after many tries I noticed the windows shell window is full of error messages:
ERROR - No location metadata found for
How do i fix that?

Hello Howard,

Could you access SWARM main folder and, in the Swarm.config file, check what values are listed for the following variables?

fdsnDataselectURL=
fdsnStationURL=

Thank you.

sure:-

fdsnDataselectURL=http://service.iris.edu/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query

fdsnStationURL=https://fdsnws.raspberryshakedata.com/fdsnws/station/1/query

Thank you Howard.

Can you try by replacing those with:

fdsnDataselectURL=https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query

fdsnStationURL=https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/station/1/query

And also taking care to replace any other fdsnws.raspberryshakedata.com instance (if present) with data.raspberryshake.org?

I can see a populated map with these values.

Nope. Those were the only instances, and changing them didn’t fix the issue.
My config file is pasted below:
alertClip=false

alertClipTimeout=5

alwaysTileHorizontally=false

chooserDividerLocation=200

chooserVisible=true

clipboardMaximized=true

clipboardSizeX=600

clipboardSizeY=600

clipboardVisible=true

clipboardX=250

clipboardY=77

durationA=1.86

durationB=-0.85

durationEnabled=false

fdsnDataselectURL=https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query

fdsnStationURL=https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/station/1/query

hideStaleChannel=false

hypocenterSource=NONE

kiosk=false

lastPath=C:\Users\howar\OneDrive\Documents\test wave file

layout=Local 5 tiled

loadLayout=false

mapHeight=510

mapLatitude=0.0

mapLineColor=0

mapLineWidth=2

mapLongitude=-180.0

mapMaximized=false

mapPath=mapdata

mapScale=24296.980846221883

mapVisible=false

mapWidth=600

mapX=0

mapY=0

nearestDividerLocation=528

pVelocity=6.0

saveConfig=true

server=RS Community;wws:data.raspberryshake.org:16022:15000:1
server=myShake;wws:10.0.0.79:16032:15000:1

showClip=true

span=24

specificTimeZone=UTC

timeChunk=30

useInstrumentTimeZone=true

useLargeCursor=false

useLocalTimeZone=true

useWMS=false

userTimes=

velocityRatio=1.73

windowMaximized=true

windowSizeX=1920

windowSizeY=1080

windowX=0

windowY=0

wmsLayer=global_mosaic

wmsServer=http://wms.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi

wmsStyles=visual

Did you update the list?

Kind regards

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Hmmm… the dataselect URL and Station URL are blank for the Raspberry Shake Community stations. On “update” it throws a java exception about a malformed URL. Screenshot attached.

pasting the values from the config file, ie
https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query
https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/station/1/query
into the dialog allows the “update” to run successfully, although not clear why it’s not reading the config file values in the first place. Import from clipboard to Hypo71 yet to be tested.
Update - trying to pick traces now throws errors - it can’t find the data for my station. I see that the query URLs were updated in the config file also. So a step back vs forward.

… so I restored the previous config, restarted swarm and now the values are populated including “localhost” in the URL (screenshot) . Clicking update throws a java error - connection refused. And again when I have 3 sets of picks on the clipboard and try to run Hypo71 it says there are 0 stations. The windows shell window reports: 2025-01-25 11:49:23 ERROR - No location metadata found for RAD5D EHZ AM 00. It will be not be used to calculate solution.
2025-01-25 11:49:23 ERROR - No location metadata found for R9951 EHZ AM 00. It will be not be used to calculate solution.
2025-01-25 11:49:23 ERROR - No location metadata found for R48E1 EHZ AM 00. It will be not be used to calculate solution.

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Hello Howard,

Let’s proceed step-by-step. If you’re trying to access our entire FDSNWS network, these steps should do the job:

  1. Open the Data Chooser window from the Window menu, as you have done
  2. Create a new Data Source by clicking on the relative icon
  3. In the new window that appears, assign it a name as usual, and then go to the FDSN WS tab
  4. In this tab, please insert the following:

Dataselect URL https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query
Station URL https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/station/1/query

  1. Then, if not already selected, select Need Update from the dropdown menu, and then click on the Update button.

It may take a while, but after the process is complete, you should have the entire network list available.
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If, instead, you are trying to add your Shake that is connected to your local network, then:

  1. Open the Data Chooser window from the Window menu
  2. Create a new Data Source by clicking on the relative icon
  3. In the new window that appears, assign it a name as usual, and then go to the Winston Wave Server tab
  4. In this tab, please insert the following:

IP Address your Shake local IP address
Port 16032

And you can live the timeout at 15 seconds.
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If any of the above is not working, then I would recommend deleting the current SWARM folder and re-downloading fresh files from the USGS website, as some of them may be corrupted, causing the issues you’re experiencing.

If you require a local metadata file to use, you can search any online Shake on StationView and then download it from the highlighted link:

If, instead, the Shake is not online, you can use one of our templates, available here: Metadata - Instrument Response Files

I did as you suggested in adding the RS FDNWS new data source so I now have several data sources (see screenshot). Can I mix and match between data sources? Which one SHOULD I be using? All I am trying to do is look at my shake alongside the 4 or so nearest ones and try to use swarm to get a rough hypocenter. I really don’t know the difference between the datasets but when I switch to the version of my shake 9951 in either the RS Community dataset or the RS FDNWS dataset is now tells me “no wave data for R9951 EHZ AM 00” and the windows shell says: “2025-02-11 02:47:41 WARN - could not get web service raw data (R9951 EHZ AM 00): Did not get an OK repsonse code (code=502, url=https://data.raspberryshake.org/fdsnws/dataselect/1/query?net=AM&sta=R9951&loc=00&cha=EHZ&start=2025-02-11T19:39:41&end=2025-02-11T19:47:40

There seem to be unwritten rules for this thing

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Hello Howard,

You can find all the FDSN Web Services details in the dedicated page on our manual: FDSN Web Services.

Sometimes 502 errors happen, and it is sufficient to wait a little bit before trying again, with the request that should now be satisfied.

I think that as long as you are using data from instruments of which you have their metadata, it doesn’t really matter if a data source is different. As long as you have their instrument response details, all available data can be appropriately processed to be used to, for example, check for hypocenters, as you are doing.

You should have all you need, in any case, via the RS FDSNWS source, as it gives access to all the data the Shakes in our network have transmitted to our server + all their metadata files.